# Ep 56: For parents. Why does "new math" look different?

July 13, 2021 Pam Harris Episode 56
Math is Figure-Out-Able with Pam Harris
Ep 56: For parents. Why does "new math" look different?

Hey parents! Thank you so much for listening to part two of our series for parents. It can be really frustrating to not understand what it is your kid is doing on their homework. What is up with all of the drawing? Where are the algorithms and simple steps? In this episode we'll explain the purpose and goal of why the math on your kid's paper looks different.
Talking Points:

• Reasoning about math different than performing memorized steps
• We want reasoners, not calculators
• It is difficult to capture students' thoughts on paper
• As we become aware of what's possible, we can encourage better teaching
Pam Harris:

Hey parents and teachers, welcome to the podcast where math is Figure-Out-Able! I'm Pam Harris,

Kim Montague:

And I'm Kim Montague.

Pam Harris:

And we teach math teachers. In this podcast, we help teachers refine their math teaching so that more students are more successful.

Kim Montague:

In this week's episode, we're again talking directly to you parents. We know you have questions, so we decided to make a few episodes just for parents. Last week, we discussed a bit of history to explain why math teaching might be different today. Today, let's talk about why math teaching looks so different.

Pam Harris:

Yeah, welcome parents. Super great to have you listening. So have you seen more pictures and drawings in math class? What is that all about? Why would we dumb down math for your kids? I could imagine that it might make some of you feel a bit unsure, uncertain to see that teachers are making math more fuzzy, or in many cases, it looks much more complicated, right? Why are teachers doing all this weird stuff instead of just clearly showing kids the steps? Isn't that a whole lot more work? Just do the line them up steps already.

Kim Montague:

Yeah, that could certainly be frustrating and unnerving. So let's talk about it. Well, remember that in the last episode, we discussed that the nature of math hasn't changed. The mathematics is about using relationships to solve problems.

Pam Harris:

Kim Montague:

I love that. And what's even more important to me is that when you and I lined up 99 and 37 we found an answer to that one problem. But understanding that 99 is close to 100, and that we can use that understanding or that kind of generalization, we can solve anything plus 99 all day long.

Pam Harris:

Kim Montague:

Oh, so I would think about 30 less. So 3700 minus 30, is 3670. And then I've already subtracted the 30. So then I need to subtract the seven. So I don't have a piece of paper. I mean, I would want to write something down. So I have 3670. So then it's 3663.

Pam Harris:

Yeah, in some nice figure-out-able steps. Now you guys might want to have written that down, as Kim was talking about it, I kind of almost wanted to, just to sort of keep track of the relationships she was using. But notice that we can absolutely do that in just a couple of steps into figure-out-able, reasonable - reason-out-able? I don't know - ways of using relationships between 99 and 37.

Kim Montague:

Yeah.

Pam Harris:

Y'all parents, that's what we want to create in your kids. We want to create in your kids students who can think to themselves, what do I know? Like, can I use what I know about these numbers to solve this problem? And when they can, just use those relationships to solve the problems. So we recognize as math educators, that there are connections that can happen naturally in the brain. And we are trying to capitalize on those connections, just like you just heard Kim, capitalize on those connections.

Kim Montague:

Yeah. So some of you have maybe never ever thought about how 99 is close to 100 and use that to solve problems. But because we just brought it out, you might be like, Oh, my gosh, I can use that. And that's why this kind of conversation is so important. Or maybe you had, and we could have helped you do that so much earlier and deeper if we had been actively helping you develop things like that.

Pam Harris:

Yeah. So regardless of whether you were sort of naturally doing things like that on your own - or we just sort of mentioned it right now and you're like, Wow, that's a new idea - this is the kind of conversation we want to have with your students in math class. But when we say things like that, we can't necessarily see what's happening in their heads, right. Like, if they're just sort of doing what Kim just did in their head, we can't see it. So we're trying to pull that stuff out, that could be happening naturally in their head or, or happening as we suggest it, and we're trying to pull that out of them and get it on paper, get it on the board in order to communicate with others. And that helps then all of us build thinking. Because remember, we need thinkers these days, not just calculators. So what we see on paper can look really messy, because it's actually but - let me be clear. When we pull it out of kids, it could look messy on paper. But it's actually not that messy in their heads. It just gets messy as we try to make it visible. We try to make it something that we can all talk about. So when we try to pull it out of what's happening and represent it on paper, that can look kind of messy.

Kim Montague:

Yeah. So you even heard us today, have you ever had a thought and you try to talk about it, and you kind of stumble over your words a little bit? It takes - right we've done that today - it actually takes a minute to get clear on what you're trying to say. And that's what's happening as we try to transition from what your student is thinking, to putting it on paper. But it's an important step. Making the thinking visible allows us to help students refine their thinking. And we can all discuss the relationships and get better at using them.

Pam Harris:

Yeah, that's a really important point.

Kim Montague:

Yeah. So parents, you might be seeing hops on a line or rectangles that are cut into pieces, like when your students are doing some work. And those might look super strange, like what in the world are you doing? Those representations are an attempt to model the thinking that is happening inside their heads. The thinking that's happening in their heads, the strategies, those are what we call strategies for messing with numbers. That's what we care about the most, the thinking.

Pam Harris:

The thinking, absolutely. And so what we are advocating for might be different than what your student is actually experiencing. And we recognize that we're advocating really to focus on this thinking and reasoning and using representations to make that thinking visible and we recognize that might not actually be what's happening in your student's classroom. So parents, we invite you to help us help teachers. The more that we all understand real math and what it means to do real math, the more we can all advocate for better and better teaching. And we can open up the mathematical gateway for so many more students.

Kim Montague:

Yeah. So we've got one more episode for you parents just for you about how you can support your students ,some steps that you can take to help your students in their journey to succeed in this math endeavor.

Pam Harris:

So parents, thanks for listening in. Teachers, thank you for recommending this podcast to your parents who are interested to understand why math instruction needed to change. So stay tuned to help make more sense of today's math teaching, and really math itself, because math is figure-out-able!