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#MathStratChat - November 27, 2024
In today’s MathStratChat, Pam and Kim discuss the MathStratChat problem shared on social media on November 27, 2024.
Note: It’s more fun if you try to solve the problem, share it on social media, comment on others strategies, before you listen to Pam and Kim’s strategies.
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Pam 00:00
Hey, fellow mathers! Welcome to the podcast where Math is Figure-Out-Able. I'm Pam Harris.
Kim 00:06
And I'm Kim Montague,
Pam 00:08
And this is a MathStratChat episode because we chat about our math strategies. Every Wednesday evening, I throw out a math problem on social media, and people from around the world chat about strategies they use. And we love it when you comment on each other's thinking.
Kim 00:21
Okay. So, this week, our math problem was compare four-ninths and five-elevenths. How would you solve this problem? Pause the podcast. Solve however you'd like the problem is four-ninths and five-elevenths. Give those a compare.
Pam 00:34
Alright, so Kim, I am aware that I have the same paper out that I had for last week's MathStratChat, which was four-ninths compared to six-elevenths.
Kim 00:43
Mmhm.
Pam 00:44
And we reasoned a couple ways to find that four-ninths is less than six-elevenths.
Kim 00:49
Mmhm.
Pam 00:50
But now, we've got one less eleventh. So, four-ninths is less than half because four and a half-ninths is a half. Five-elevenths is less than half because five and a half-elevenths... So, what I just wrote down was four and a half-ninths and five and a half-elevenths. So, four -ninths is just a half of a ninth under a half. And five-elevenths is a half of an eleventh under one half. Since an eleventh is smaller than a ninth, five-elevenths is not as far from a half as four-ninths. Right? Oh, I love that I could just do that.
Kim 01:39
Love that.
Pam 01:40
Notice. So, wait. I have to say that again.
Kim 01:42
Say it again. Yeah, yeah.
Pam 01:43
So, five-elevenths is not as far under a half as four-ninths. Yeah. (unclear).
Kim 01:51
And so you think it's bigger.
Pam 01:52
So, I think five-elevenths is still bigger. Not as far under. Yeah. Right?
Kim 01:57
Wait, say that again. You think what's bigger?
Pam 02:01
Yeah, good question.
Kim 02:03
Are you... Can you draw? Are you drawing something?
Pam 02:05
Um, no.
Kim 02:07
Oh, maybe put it on a number line.
Pam 02:08
Well, I have five and a half-elevenths. So, let me just compare that again. five-elevenths to five and a half -elevenths. I'm a half of an eleventh under one-half. And a half of an eleventh is smaller... Yeah.
Kim 02:24
Yeah.
Pam 02:24
Yeah, so it's closer. So, it is. It's bigger. Five-elevenths is bigger than four-ninths.
Kim 02:28
I love that when you said that to yourself a second time, you drastically different. You're like, "Yeah, it is."
Pam 02:34
Yeah.
Kim 02:34
Convinced. Confident.
Pam 02:35
Nice.
Kim 02:36
Nicely done.
Pam 02:37
Okay, I have no idea what you're going to do.
Kim 02:40
I actually started to...
Pam 02:43
Thanks for letting me have my way first.
Kim 02:44
No, it's okay. Well, I started to go down the path that you were, and then I realized that you were doing that, so I decided to do something different. And really, elevenths and ninths are not my favorite. But for whatever reason, I think that I would just scale up for this one, and I'd say... Would I? I guess I would. (unclear).
Pam 03:04
Do you want more time?
Kim 03:05
No, because I do think there's a world where it's okay to scale up sometimes.
Pam 03:11
Sure.
Kim 03:11
(unclear).
Pam 03:12
Yep, yep.
Kim 03:15
So, I'm going to call five-elevenths the same as equivalent to 45/99. And I'm going to call four-ninths equivalent to 44/99.
Pam 03:26
Oh, those are so close, eh?
Kim 03:28
Yeah. yeah. So, it's 1/99. No wonder it's challenging to tell without a little bit more thinking. They're so close.
Pam 03:38
Yeah.
Kim 03:38
So, five-elevenths.
Pam 03:39
Cool problem.
Kim 03:40
Yeah, yeah.
Pam 03:41
You're cool, Kim. You're so cool. Alright, y'all.
Kim 03:43
You wrote it!
Pam 03:44
We can't wait to see... Yeah, I just... Yeah, but I knew they were close. I don't know if I knew how close.
Kim 03:48
Yeah.
Pam 03:49
We can't wait to see what you do each week. Join us on MathStratChat and let us know how you are thinking about the problems. And while you're there, comment on each other's strategies.
Kim 03:57
Yeah, Pam posts the problem on Wednesday evenings at 7:00 pm Central, and when you answer, you can tag her and use the hashtag MathStratChat. Then join us here to hear what we're thinking about the problem.
Pam 04:07
We love having you as part of the Math is Figure-Out-Able movement, because Math is
Pam and Kim 04:13
Figure-Out-Able!